Greek Sloop-of-War Karteria (Perseverance) 1826-1831

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Greek Sloop-of-War Karteria (Perseverance) 1826-1831

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Nationality: Revolutionary Greece
Operator: Greek Navy
Ordered: 1824
Years of service: 1826-1831
Propulsion: Steam paddles/Sail
Shipyard: Daniel Brent Shipwrights, Greenland South Dockyard, Rotherhithe, London.
Captain: Frank Abney Hastings (ex RN)
Armament: 4x68pdr carronades, 4x68pdr guns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karteria_(Greek_warship)
http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.gr/2011/02/1826-1840-paddle-steamer-karteria.html
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If you have access to Mariner's Mirror there is an account of the Greek revolutionaries' purchase of steamers by Douglas Dakin, ‘Lord Cochrane’s Greek Steam Fleet’, in vol. 39, no. 3 (August 1953), pp. 211-19.
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Thanks for the info! No, unfortunately I haven't read that paper yet.
Anyway, what I realized is how unknown Captain Frank Abney Hastings is in his home country.
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Syrett & DiNardo have Frank Hastings as Lieutenant RN Mar 1814, Commander RN in April 1819, Struck off in Aug 1819 and also dead in 1819, they are also missing his middle name. It is of course possible that there are two Frank Hastings and they have been concatenated/confused.

This thought is strengthened by the fact there are two wills listed the national archives for Frank Abney Hastings.

Reference: PROB 11/1782/477
Description: Will of Frank Abney Hastings of Island of Zante
Date: 15 March 1831
AND
Reference: PROB 11/1748/27
Description: Will of Frank Abney Hastings of No 29 Leicester Square , Middlesex
Date: 28 November 1828

There is also a wbesite about him and the Karteria, http://www.captainfrank.co.uk/
OK, it was me, probably!
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Well....those two wills appear to be from the same person.
Hastings was wounded off Messolonghi (where Lord Byron died) and died of his wounds at Zante Island (then part of the British Protectorate of the United States of the Seven Islands) on 1 June 1828.
All the above info seem correct except of the date of death in 1819.
Anyway he is a very interesting Captain and surprisingly unknown in England.
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Perseverance was ordered in March 1825, not 1824
According to the order she and other ships should be ready in August 1825

She received builders certificate 8.03.1826 where was measures
233 77/94 burthen tons
130’ 7” x 25’ 1” x 12’
built 1825 by Daniel Brent, Rotherhithe, in 1825

She have two sets 1 Cyl high pressure engines by Galloway, of 85nhp together.

According to BT107/47
she was registered at London #380 on 1.04.1826 to F.A.Hastings - London
Jan 1827 Register was closed - “Vessel sold to the Greek Government”
She took trials 18.05.1826 and under Hastings' command left Deptford for Greece 26.05.1826.
Due to boilers problems she was delayed in Sardinia for three months awaiting repairs and did not arrive at Nafplion until 14.09.1826

Recently the rests of her boiler were found in Greece.
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Actually both her Gallloway boilers seem to survive at Salamis Navy Base.
There must have been a patent dispute between Galloway and Thomas Cochrane over those boilers...
see: Τhe Mechanics Magazine of 1830 (I only have the citation, never read it).
see also: http://russiadock.blogspot.gr/2016/01/the-steam-corvette-karteria-built-in.html
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The patent dispute was not in fact between Thomas Cochrane and his partner Alexander Galloway (English engineer, 1776-1847). Cochrane and Galloway together took action against John Ericsson (the famous Swedish engineer, 1803-1889, who later migrated to the U.S.A.) and John Braithwaite (English engineer, 1797-1870). Ericsson and Braithwaite designed and built the steam locomotive Novelty which competed unsuccessfully in the 1829 Rainhill trials against Robert Stephenson’s Rocket.

Cochrane and Galloway claimed the boiler design which Ericsson and Braithwaite patented in 1829 (and used in Novelty) infringed their own patent of 1818. The case was decided in favour of Cochrane and Galloway in 1834. The Mechanics Magazine, vol. 13 (1830), is available on the web (Google Books) and has a report of the case on pp. 309-312.

Ericsson, of course, went on the design the U.S.S. Monitor and other ships as well as marine engines, weapons and a screw propellor.
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There is some follow up reportage of the case, which would have aroused a lot of interest so soon after the Rainhill trials, on pp. 377-388 of the same volume and a description of the Cochrane-Galloway boiler on pp. 305-308.
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