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French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 3:17 pm
by AvM
I am very interested in any French privateers operated from German harbours 1800-1810
Re: French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 4:58 pm
by Cy
Unless I'm much mistaken, I don't believe there can have been French Privateers from German ports, they were not a part of France unlike the Netherlands. There may have been some from the constituent states that were French allies however, Kingdom of Westphalia, Confederation of the Rhine, Bavaria etc.
Re: French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:11 pm
by AvM
Saunders's News-Letter - Saturday 27 October 1810
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Re: French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:02 pm
by Cy
Sorry, I thought you meant German vessels sailing under a French letter of Marque, not French or Dutch ships in German ports. That's an entirely different thing.
Re: French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:43 pm
by AvM
Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Thursday 07 November 1811
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Re: French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:45 pm
by AvM
Cy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:02 pm
Sorry, I thought you meant German vessels sailing under a French letter of Marque, not French or Dutch ships in German ports. That's an entirely different thing.
I have not origins of these ships. It looks, that some were local built and eventually local armed ships.
The French authorities (very corrupted) give some licences even to handel with Great Britain.
The problem is difficult and not really researched.
Re: French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:35 am
by AvM
From 1809 Hamburg newspaper
privateer DER BÄR (German name of bear) built at Altona
and operated against british shipping of Helgoland
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Re: French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:12 am
by Cy
I am guessing here. does the abbreviation "20000 Rthlr" mean 20000 Reichsthaler?
Re: French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:15 pm
by AvM
Cy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:12 am
I am guessing here. does the abbreviation "20000 Rthlr" mean 20000 Reichsthaler?
Yes
Reichstaler = Rthlr., Rthl., rthl., Thl.
Note that Altona was Danish.
Harburg belongs to Hannover
Both now are part of Hamburg
Re: French letters of Marque based from German harbours
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:52 pm
by AvM
More data, discussion, etc are completely moved to the German forum
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php/topic,28045.0.html